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Being the kink - feeling like a novelty

I completely get this conflict you’re describing...

But I want to start with your last point about feeling like a novelty or that it diminishes who you are. The most important thing to remember is that only you get to define your worth and how you see yourself.
Other people might like, love, fetishize, hate, shame, or even flip between those extremes and how they see you, whether it’s in the fetish community or in everyday life. Their opinions don’t define you and you don’t need to rely on them for validation.It's a hard one to learn and even accept (it took me a while, and I prioritised seeking the validation of others for quite a long time in my younger days).

I can’t speak for all admirers because everyone is different, but there’s always been discussion around how fat people can’t “switch off their bodies”. And sometimes FA's who feel the need to hide or be “in the closet” about their attraction can unintentionally reinforce stigma. When people secretly like fat bodies but openly deny it or participate in fat shaming it can make things feel awful. It keeps the message going that fat bodies are only acceptable in secret. Then the burden of fat positivity falls on fat people...and that can be tough.

But as for wanting to be attractive and desirable all the time, not just seen as a feedee, gainer, or BBW (not for later) that is a completely normal want. Nobody wants to feel like a secret. I’ve personally felt only wanted for my fatness and not for me in the past, and I know how complicated it can feel.

Where does the fat kink identity and fat person everyday identity cross over for us all? I do think that’s a personal thing, and it’s okay for it to be complicated. But at the end of the day your feelings, your attractiveness, and your worth exist independently of anyone elses mindset or kink lens.
3 weeks

Being the kink - feeling like a novelty

Kita is a person with a kink as much as her body would be someone else's kink.

And for her, it is not a thing she can just turn off. It is there all the time, whether it is convenient to her or not, and is the primary driver of her romantic and sexual urges. It does have the added benefit of Kita basically never finding her partner unattractive, as the thing she finds attractive is their willingness to feed.

As far as whether or not they find her body attractive? Kita can't control that. So she just hopes that they won't fall in and out so much that they quit feeding. She has not had much luck on that, and it leads her to seeking people who just aren't insecure about it. It is that insecurity that causes so many people to hide.
3 weeks

Being the kink - feeling like a novelty

Fatgirlbelly:
The thing I’m still conflicted about most from the fat person perspective is that we ARE the kink. We can’t switch off or put it away. I find it hard to understand how we are perceived outside just the kink space so wanted to start a discussion but finding it hard to articulate so bear with me!

For example, from an appreciator’s point of view living in a “normal” body - does your attraction change based on your mindset? Like will you find us attractive one day and a “fat girl you wouldn’t go near” until the kink invaded your brain again, the next? Does that make sense? Or does it depend?

I think because until recently, I have changed my mind so many times! Liking it on myself one minute and hating it the next- so it’s what I assume others feel towards us.

It’s something I haven’t got a gauge on or seen discussed much so wanted to see people’s thoughts and opinions. I’m very likely overthinking it but I’m AUDHD and love to have clear understandings of these things.

I think sometimes I feel like a novelty, and that diminishes who I am as a whole. If that’s what you’re after absolutely fine! And the moment can call for that for sure. But other times I’d like to just feel hot without the caveat of “just for now - not later”

Hope this makes sense!


Ok.... I think this is one of the best posts on FF I've seen in years. Kudos.

For example, from an appreciator’s point of view living in a “normal” body - does your attraction change based on your mindset?


No. Speaking here as an older person.... You fancy who you fancy.... Weight alone does not do it. Can you laugh in their company?.... Chill?... Talk?... Be at your ease and actually.... There's another 100 things or more that decide this and they are all different for lots of people for lots of reasons.

But if you do fancy them.....

You fancy them... And that's that.

Such is my experience anyway.

As for more permanent attraction and not being a 'temporary turn on ' or similar.....

Finding that person takes time and experience and trial and error and a little luck and.....

Well sure if it was easy no one would be single!

All the best.
2 weeks

Being the kink - feeling like a novelty

As an appreciator I'd like to give my two cents as well since I think that you've started a very important and insightful conversation. Personally, my attraction to big bodies never changes. I always found fat people attractive but it took some time to admit it to myself just because it was so engrained in my brain by my family and society as a whole that it is something abnormal and bad. Now I'm very ashamed at my younger self that she couldn't be honest to herself and the people she was interested in. But after reflecting on everything and questioning my beliefs I chose to embrace my preferences and my kink. That said, I don't see fat people as my personal pleasure project. I want to get to know the person I'm physically attracted to as a whole. At the end of the day confidence is the most attractive attribute to me but I know all to well that it doesn't come easy. So please give yourself some grace and try to be patient in your self acceptance journey and thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and worries. smiley
2 weeks

Being the kink - feeling like a novelty

Fatgirlbelly:
The thing I’m still conflicted about most from the fat person perspective is that we ARE the kink. We can’t switch off or put it away. I find it hard to understand how we are perceived outside just the kink space so wanted to start a discussion but finding it hard to articulate so bear with me!

For example, from an appreciator’s point of view living in a “normal” body - does your attraction change based on your mindset? Like will you find us attractive one day and a “fat girl you wouldn’t go near” until the kink invaded your brain again, the next? Does that make sense? Or does it depend?

I think because until recently, I have changed my mind so many times! Liking it on myself one minute and hating it the next- so it’s what I assume others feel towards us.

It’s something I haven’t got a gauge on or seen discussed much so wanted to see people’s thoughts and opinions. I’m very likely overthinking it but I’m AUDHD and love to have clear understandings of these things.

I think sometimes I feel like a novelty, and that diminishes who I am as a whole. If that’s what you’re after absolutely fine! And the moment can call for that for sure. But other times I’d like to just feel hot without the caveat of “just for now - not later”

Hope this makes sense!



Thank you for sharing this; it’s such an important and complex topic. Reading your post, I wanted to offer a slightly different perspective that might ease that feeling of being 'just a kink' or a passing trend.

Speaking for myself, my attraction to fat women existed long before I even knew there was a definition for it as a 'kink' or that a community even existed. For me, it’s simply what is beautiful and attractive, just like someone else might be into a certain hair color or height. This attraction isn't a 'mindset' that switches on and off, and it’s not something I have to 'get into' to find you hot, it’s just a fundamental part of my taste and identity.

Furthermore, as someone who actually wants to gain weight myself (a gainer), I see a beauty and comfort in fat bodies that is irreplaceable. It’s definitely not a 'novelty' or a momentary objectification for me' it’s the type of body I admire, love, and want to inhabit myself.

I completely understand the fear of feeling like a 'curiosity,' but I want you to know there are people whose attraction is consistent and deep-rooted. They see you as hot simply because you are, without any caveats and regardless of whether they are in a 'kink space' at that moment or not. To them, you aren't just the kink, you are simply the standard of beauty.
2 weeks

Being the kink - feeling like a novelty

Anni:
As an appreciator I'd like to give my two cents as well since I think that you've started a very important and insightful conversation. Personally, my attraction to big bodies never changes. I always found fat people attractive but it took some time to admit it to myself just because it was so engrained in my brain by my family and society as a whole that it is something abnormal and bad. Now I'm very ashamed at my younger self that she couldn't be honest to herself and the people she was interested in. But after reflecting on everything and questioning my beliefs I chose to embrace my preferences and my kink. That said, I don't see fat people as my personal pleasure project. I want to get to know the person I'm physically attracted to as a whole. At the end of the day confidence is the most attractive attribute to me but I know all to well that it doesn't come easy. So please give yourself some grace and try to be patient in your self acceptance journey and thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and worries. smiley


Hey just thought I would comment on this because this was very well said!

As someone who is open for having an attraction for someone who is extra curvy or straight up fat, I can definitely say that the more you are willing to admit and accept that part of yourself then the more that you will be able to embrace that part of yourselves respectfully. Of course it’s also important that we should also be attracted to the person for who they are as a human being besides the exterior level of attraction. I always say that “physical attraction may get you in a relationship, but emotional attraction will keep you in one”, it’s true because we’re not always going to look the same all the time as we go through life.

There is no doubt that we are in a really strange time period now with the rise of GLP-1s and the antagonism towards body positivity. And I fear that for some people like us might go into hiding because of avoiding being the centre of criticism. However I like how we’re also having open discussions like this to not only help those people accept their particular preferences again, but also seeing the grey area and balance between fantasy and reality.
1 week

Being the kink - feeling like a novelty

I too know how it feels to be the kink.

Honestly it feels great. There are quite a few chubby white girls who have kinks for black guys. It feels amazing. Some of the best sex you can have is with a person that fetishizes you in my opinion. People call it dehumanizing but its something about being with someone who desires something about you to the point you become a novelty. They almost worship you.
1 week

Being the kink - feeling like a novelty

I've wanted to chime in here as well, as I want those who are still worried about this that something like this isn't a novelty to ignore a week later like a tourist souvenir. It's been a lifelong thing for me that demands quite constant attention and management.

As it's mentioned a couple times in here, it's not exactly the most rational thing. What's between my ears and between my legs is quite disconnected except for the pathway itself. What I mean here is that regardless of what I may consciously think positively or negatively of any of my kinks, it's going to activate my libido. All I can do is control my own actions and thoughts surrounding it. That goes for anybody else. Growing up in a country of overweight and obese people for me, it's like those teen movies but everyone's a gym bunny in LA, yet the overall culture says that muscles are bad.

So I know it's an issue with the person and not the kink when they decide that abuse or actively making someone feel worthless for something else they can't control - whether it be having or being the kink, or otherwise.

My own path of navigating this kink has shown me how fat and fat people can be quite beautiful or cute or wonderful. I have seen people make more plus-size clothing, achieve things they were told they could never do because of their weight, and become some of the best voices in very needed spaces. Actual medical advice has come from these people because they had to go to doctor after doctor and find one that would look past their weight to find the real issue. Owning your own body fully is one of the greatest things you can do for yourself in many ways. To me it's even sexier because both parties are engaged in full. It often leads to better health. If someone makes you feel bad about that, then they have their own unattended issues to deal with.

I also know there have been some real bad actors and people who have come through spaces like this only looking for their own sexual gratification leaving nothing in return. It's often very demoralizing and in the worst cases, leads to people - most often women - to suffer something they never wanted in their lives. I never want that for anyone, and many people still need to realize the lives they affect when they force a fetish onto someone they see as a "project" of sorts.

Fat itself to me is soft, warm, fun, hypnotic, and often thought-provoking. It defies a lot and still manages to be unique from person to person in how it looks, acts, and even grows or shifts. And these aren't just pretty words, I'm saying all of this having thought about it all for almost 20 years.

This kink has been a bedrock of other things when I look at it all. I first had to accept that I was attracted to larger people when all my peers wanted skinny or muscular women. That led to me being able to accept I was bisexual and then later on, find all the pieces to put together that I'm trans as well. I also hear the stories of how people just find their own way into similar things through feederism, and I love how they can hug themselves mentally and physically! It always gives me a little more hope in times like this. So to me, nobody here is a novelty. If you got here on your own, you're doing a lot more than many others can say, you've already come quite a way in your own journey and that deserves celebration. And hey, a fetish where there's more pizza can't be worse than other fetishes I've heard of.
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